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From: Leo van de Pas< >
Subject: Re: de LOUVAIN ; counts of BRABANT
Date: 2 Jul 1998 01:41:40 -0700


>1. Sweder III d'ABCOUDE (d. 12/4/1400), son of Gisbert III and
>2. Jeanne de HORNES, daughter of
>3. Guillaume V de HORNES, son of
>4. Jeanne de LOUVAIN, daughter of
>5. Henri de LOUVAIN, son of
>6. Godefroid de LOUVAIN and Marie d'AUDENAERDE
>Jean-Franois in Tournai, Belgium

Dear Jean-Francois, I hope you know the ancestorlist/Quartiers/Ahnenliste
system?

1.Hendrik de Louvain, Lord of Gaesbeek & Herstal
died 1285

2.Godfried de Louvain, Lord of Baucignies, Leeuwe & Gaesbeek
born 1209, died 21 January 1253
married before 7 August 1243
3.Marie van Oudenaarde
heiress of Herve, Baucignies & Gaesbeek
died after 24 August 1293

4.Hendrik I, Duke of Brabant
born 1165, died circa 3 September 1253 Koln/Cologne
married before 30 March 1180
5.Mathilde de Boulogne
born circa 1161, died circa 1210

6.Arnold IV van Oudenaarde, Heer van Oudenaarde & Pamele
died before November 1242
married
7.Alix (Adelheid) de Rozoy
Dame de Rosoy, Baucignies, Lessines
died after 1259

8.Godfried III, Duke of Lower-Lorraine
born circa 1141, died 21 August 1190
married January 1155
9.Margaretha von Limburg
born circa 1138, died 1172

10.Matthieu, Count de Boulogne
born circa 1138, died 25 July 1173
married circa 1160, annulled 1169
11.Marie de Blois, Countess de Boulogne
born circa 1136

12.Gilbert II, Lord van Oudenaarde
born circa 1164/1169, died before 1182
married
13.Richilda de Tournai, Dame de Feignies

14.Roger de Rozoy, Seigneur de Rozoy
died before 1246
married
15.Alix d'Avesnes

16.Godfried II, Duke of Lower-Lorraine, Count of Louvain
born 1105, died 13 June 1142
married 1139
17.Lutgardis von Sulzbach
died after 1162

18.Heinrich II, Duke of Limburg, Count of Arlon
died August 1167 Rome
married 1136
19.Mathilde von Saffenberg, Heiress of Rode
died 2 January 1145

20.Thierry d'Alsace, Count of Flanders
died 17 January 1168
married 1134
21.Sibylla d'Anjou
born 1116, died 1165 Bethlehem

22.Stephen de Blois, KIng of England 1135-1154
born circa 1096 Blois, died 25 October 1154 Dover
married 1125
23.Matilda, Countess of Boulogne and Lens
born circa 1105, died 3 Julyu 1152 Hedingham Castle, Essex

24.Arnold III van Oudenaarde
25.Mathilda

26.Everard III Radulf de Mortagne, Castellan of Tournai
27.Mathilde de Bethune

28.Renaud de Rozoy, Sire de Rozoy et de Chateau-Porcien
29.Julienne de Rumigny

30.Jacques d'Avesnes, Seigneur d'Avesnes, Conde et de Leuze
born 1150, died in battle 7 September 1191 Arsoef, Palestine
married 1180
31.Ameline de Guise

Sources :
Stammtafeln zur Eropaische Geschichte, by W.K. Prinz von Isenburg

Genealogie der Graven van Holland, by Dr.A.W.E. Dek

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, 1973.

Kwartieren van Hendrik III en Willem de Rijke van Nassau,
by G. F. de Roo van Alderwerelt

Gens Nostra

Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Furstlichen Hauser

The Plantagenet Ancestry, by Lt.Col. W.H. Turton

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, by Gerald Paget

Europaische Stammtafeln (Schwennicke)

The Flemish Nobility before 1300, by Dr. E.Warlop

Hope this helps,
Leo van de Pas

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