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From: KHF333< >
Subject: Re: Warren
Date: 1 Apr 1998 20:58:29 -0800


In a message dated 4/1/98 11:36:22 AM, you wrote:

<<Hi - hope someone can help with this line. I have: John de Warren (or
possibly Warenne); b. Aug 1231; d. 27 Sep 1304/1305 married Alice de Lusignan;
b. c. 1224; d. 9 Feb. 1255/1291 d/o Hugh X de la Marche Lusignan & Isabella av
Angouleme de Taillefer and/or married Alice Le Brun, no other info. on her.
Who is the mother of his children: Isabel, Alianor/Eleanor, and William?
TIA, Carol, aka >>

<<Reply: These are the same person. Several (even most) of the later Hugh's
of
Lusignan bore the nickname le Brun. >>

True, they are called le Brun from their father. See below from the soon to be
published 3 volume set "The Ancestry of Elizabeth of York."

338. John Warren --7th Earl Warren and Surrey (RN=4040), b abt
August 1231 at of Warren, Sussex, England, d 27 Sep 1304
at Kennington, London, England, bur Lewes Priory, Sussex,
England, fath William Plantagenet de Warren --3rd Earl
Warren and Surrey (RN=4042), moth Maud Marshall (RN=3719),
m to Alice le Brun (RN=4041) August 1247, 1: William de
Warren, Sir (RN=3702), 2: Isobel Warenne (RN=6458), 3:
Eleanor Warenne (RN=10674), (1: Earl of Sussex.), sou
Plantagenet Ancestry by Turton, p. 97.
339. Alice le Brun (RN=4041), b abt 1224 at Lusignan, Vienne,
France, d 02 Feb 1290 at Warren, Sussex, England, bur
Lewes Priory, England, fath Hugh X le Brun --Lord Lusignan
(RN=4044), moth Isabella of Angouleme Taillefer (RN=3962),
m to John Warren --7th Earl Warren and Surrey (RN=4040)
August 1247, 1: William de Warren, Sir (RN=3702), 2:
Isobel Warenne (RN=6458), 3: Eleanor Warenne (RN=10674),
sou Plantagenet Ancestry by Turton, p. 97.

678. Hugh X le Brun --Lord Lusignan (RN=4044), b bef 1169 at
Lusignan, Vienne, France, d 1246 abt 6 Jun, bur Abbey of
Valence, France, fath Hugh IX --Seigneur de Lusignan
(RN=6095), moth Mathilde of Angouleme (RN=6096), m to
Isabella of Angouleme Taillefer (RN=3962) 10 May 1220, 1:
Alice le Brun (RN=4041), 2: Hugh XI de Lusignan --Count
Ponthieu, La Marche, Angouleme (RN=10606), 3: William de
Valence, Sir--Seigneur de Champagnac, Earl of Pembroke
(RN=10675), 4: Isabelle de Lusignan (RN=28448), 5:
Geoffroy I --Seigneur de Jarnac & Chateauneuf (RN=28453),
6: Agnes md. William de Chauvigny, Seigneur d'Argenton (No
Record), 7: Marguerite md. (1) Raymond VII, Count of
Toulouse; (2) Amaury VIII, Vicomte de Thouars; (3)
Geoffroy de Chateaubriand (No Record), (1: Count of la
Marche and Angouleme), sou Europaische Stammtafeln by
Isenburg, charts 564, 818, Vol. 3.

169. Eleanor Warenne (RN=10674), b 1251 at of Warren, Sussex,
England, d aft 1282, bur Sallay Abbey, fath John Warren
--7th Earl Warren and Surrey (RN=4040), moth Alice le Brun
(RN=4041), m to Henry Percy, Sir--7th Baron Percy
(RN=11322) 08 Sep 1268 at York, Yorkshire, England, 1:
Henry Percy, Sir--9th Baron Percy & Alnwick (RN=11319),
sou Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 1875.

- Ken

Kenneth Harper Finton
Editor, THE PLANTAGENET CONNECTION

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