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From: "Todd A. Farmerie" <>
Subject: Re: Warren
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 18:01:54 -0500


Seejay51 wrote:
>
> Hi - hope someone can help with this line. I have:
>
> John de Warren (or possibly Warenne); b. Aug 1231; d. 27 Sep 1304/1305
> married Alice de Lusignan; b. c. 1224; d. 9 Feb. 1255/1291
> d/o Hugh X de la Marche Lusignan & Isabella av Angouleme de Taillefer
>
> and/or married Alice Le Brun, no other info. on her
>
> Who is the mother of his children: Isabel, Alianor/Eleanor, and William?
>

These are the same person. Several (even most) of the later Hugh's of
Lusignan bore the nickname le Brun. It would seem that your source for
"Alice le Brun" has incorrectly taken this to be a surname (likewise
"Taillefer" was a nickname of Isabella's grandfather (I think it was)
the Count of Angouleme, and not a surname or placename). As far as I
know, Alice is the mother of all of John's legitimate children.

ta

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