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From: ED MANN< >
Subject: Re: Neville, L. Latimer
Date: 3 Feb 1998 20:47:39 -0800


Don Mcarthur wrote:

> ED MANN, you wrote
> > Date: 1 February 1998 03:53

> > 6. HENRY4 NEVILLE (GEORGE3, RALPH2 DE NEVILLE, JOHN1) died July 14,
> > 1469 in Battle of Edgecote, near Banbury, England. He married JOAN
> > BOURCHIER Abt. 1467.
> >
>
> Is this Joan daughter of John L. Berners son of William by Anne WOODSTOCK,
> gdau of Edward III ?

I think so:

Ancestors of Joan Bourchier

Generation No. 1

1. Joan Bourchier, died 7 Oct 1470. She was the daughter of 2. John
Bourchier and 3. Margery Berners. She married (1) Henry Neville ca.
1467. He was the son of George Neville and Elizabeth de Beauchamp.

Children of Joan Bourchier and Henry Neville are:
i.Richard Neville, born ca. 1468; died Dec 1530 in Snape Castle, Cty.
York, England; married (1) Anne Stafford ca. 1490; married (2) Margaret
ca. 1522.
ii.Thomas Neville.
iii.Joane Neville, married James Ratcliffe.

Generation No. 2

2. John Bourchier, died May 1474. He was the son of 4. William
Bourchier and 5. Anne Plantagenet. He married 3. Margery Berners.
3. Margery Berners, died 18 Dec 1475. She was the daughter of 6.
Richard Berners and 7. Philippa Dalyngridge.

Children of John Bourchier and Margery Berners are:
i.Humphrey Bourchier, died 14 Apr 1471 in Battle of Barnet Field,
England; married Elizabeth Tilney.
1ii.Joan Bourchier, died 7 Oct 1470; married Henry Neville ca. 1467.
iii.Thomas Bourchier.

Generation No. 3

4. William Bourchier, born in Little Eaton, Essex, England; died 28
May 1420 in Troyes, Aube, France. He was the son of 8. William de
Bourchier and 9. Alainor de Lovaine. He married 5. Anne Plantagenet
Bef. 20 Nov 1405.
5. Anne Plantagenet, born Apr 1383 in Pheshy, Essex. England; died 16
Oct 1438. She was the daughter of 10. Thomas Plantagenet and 11.
Alianore de Bohun.

Children of William Bourchier and Anne Plantagenet are:
2i.John Bourchier, died May 1474; married Margery Berners.
ii.Thomas Bourchier, born ca. 1407; died 1486.
iii.Henry Bourchier, born 1409; died 1483; married Isabel
Plantagenet.
iv.William Bourchier, born 1412 in Little Eaton, Essex, England; died
9 Dec 1471; married (1) Thomasine Hanckford Bef. 3 Aug 1437; married (2)
Katherine de Affeton Bef. 9 Jan 1458/59.
v.Anne Bourchier, born ca. 1417; died 1486; married John Mowbray.

6. Richard Berners. He married 7. Philippa Dalyngridge.
7. Philippa Dalyngridge. She was the daughter of 14. Edward
Dalyngridge and 15. Elizabeth Wardeux.

Child of Richard Berners and Philippa Dalyngridge is:
3i.Margery Berners, died 18 Dec 1475; married John Bourchier.

Generation No. 4

8. William de Bourchier, died 1375. He was the son of 16. Robert de
Bourchier and 17. Margaret de Prayers. He married 9. Alainor de Lovaine
Bef. Jun 1359.
9. Alainor de Lovaine, born 27 Mar 1345; died 5 Oct 1397. She was the
daughter of 18. John de Lovaine and 19. Margaret de Weston.

Child of William de Bourchier and Alainor de Lovaine is:
4i.William Bourchier, born in Little Eaton, Essex, England; died 28
May 1420 in Troyes, Aube, France; married Anne Plantagenet Bef. 20 Nov
1405.

10. Thomas Plantagenet, born 7 Jan 1354/55 in Woodstock, Cty. Oxford,
England; died Sep 1397 in (murdered) Calais, France. He was the son of
20. Edward III of England and 21. Philippa de Hainault. He married 11.
Alianore de Bohun Bef. 24 Aug 1376.
11. Alianore de Bohun, born ca. 1366; died 3 Oct 1399 in Minoresses
Convent, Aldgate, England. She was the daughter of 22. Humphrey de
Bohun and 23. Joan FitzAlan.

Children of Thomas Plantagenet and Alianore de Bohun are:
5i.Anne Plantagenet, born Apr 1383 in Pheshy, Essex. England; died 16
Oct 1438; married (1) Thomas de Stafford Bef. 1393; married (2) Edmund
de Stafford Bef. 1403; married (3) William Bourchier Bef. 20 Nov 1405.
ii.Joan Plantagenet, married Gilbert Talbot.

14. Edward Dalyngridge, born ca. 1346; died Bef. 1395. He married 15.
Elizabeth Wardeux.
15. Elizabeth Wardeux.

Child of Edward Dalyngridge and Elizabeth Wardeux is:
7i.Philippa Dalyngridge, married (1) Richard Berners; married (2)
Thomas Lewknor.

Generation No. 5

16. Robert de Bourchier, born ca. 1300 in Essex, England; died 1349.
He was the son of 32. John de Bourchier and 33. Helen de Colchester. He
married 17. Margaret de Prayers.
17. Margaret de Prayers, born ca. 1300. She was the daughter of 34.
Thomas de Prayers and 35. Anne de Essex.

Children of Robert de Bourchier and Margaret de Prayers are:
i.John Bourchier, died 1400; married Elizabeth Coggeshall.
8ii.William de Bourchier, died 1375; married Alainor de Lovaine Bef.
Jun 1359.

18. John de Lovaine, born ca. 1318; died 30 Jan 1346/47. He was the
son of 36. Thomas de Lovaine and 37. Joan. He married 19. Margaret de
Weston Bef. 1345.
19. Margaret de Weston, died 25 Jul 1349. She was the daughter of 38.
Thomas de Weston.

Child of John de Lovaine and Margaret de Weston is:
9i.Alainor de Lovaine, born 27 Mar 1345; died 5 Oct 1397; married
William de Bourchier Bef. Jun 1359.

20. Edward III of England, born 13 Nov 1312 in Windsor Castle, Cty.
Berkshire, England; died 21 Jun 1377 in Sheen Palace, Richmond, Surrey,
England. He was the son of 40. Edward II of England and 41. Isabelle de
France. He married 21. Philippa de Hainault 24 Jan 1327/28.
21. Philippa de Hainault, born 24 Jun 1311 in Hainault, Belgium; died
15 Aug 1369 in Windsor Castle, Cty. Berkshire, England. She was the
daughter of 42. Guillaume III d'Avesnes and 43. Jeanne de Valois.

Children of Edward of England and Philippa de Hainault are:
i.Edward Plantagenet, born 15 Jun 1330 in Woodstock, England; died 8
Jun 1376 in Westminster, England; married Joan Plantagenet 10 Oct 1361
in Windsor Castle, Cty. Berkshire, England.
ii.Isabel Plantagenet, born 16 Jun 1332; married Ingelram de Couci 27
Jul 1365.
iii.Joan Plantagenet, born ca. Feb 1334/35; died 2 Sep 1348 in
(plague) Bordeaux, France.
iv.William Plantagenet, born 1337; died 1337.
v.Lionel Plantagenet, born 29 Nov 1338 in Antwerp, Belgium; died 17
Oct 1368 in Albe, Piedmont, Italy; married (1) Elizabeth de Burgh 9 Sep
1342; married (2) Violanta Visconti Aft. 1363.
vi.John of Gaunt, born Mar 1339/40 in St. Bavon's Abbey, Ghent,
Flanders; died 3 Feb 1398/99 in Leicester Castle, London, England;
married (1) Blanche Plantagenet 19 May 1359; married (2) Constanza de
Castile Jun 1371; married (3) Katherine Röet 13 Jan 1396/97 in Lincoln,
Lincolnshire, England.
vii.Edmund Plantagenet, born 5 Jun 1344 in Kings Langley, Cty.
Hertford, England; died 1 Aug 1402 in Kings Langley, Cty. Hertford,
England; married (1) Isabella de Castile ca. 1 Mar 1371/72; married (2)
Joan de Holand 4 Nov 1393.
viii.Blanche Plantagenet, born 1342; died 1342.
ix.Mary Plantagenet, born 10 Oct 1344; died 1362; married Jean IV de
Dreux 1361 in Woodstock Palace, Oxfordshire, England.
x.Margaret Plantagenet, born 20 Jul 1346; died 1361; married John de
Hastings in Reading, England.
xi.William Plantagenet, born 1348; died 1348.
10xii.Thomas Plantagenet, born 7 Jan 1354/55 in Woodstock, Cty.
Oxford, England; died Sep 1397 in (murdered) Calais, France; married
Alianore de Bohun Bef. 24 Aug 1376.

22. Humphrey de Bohun, born 25 Mar 1342; died 16 Jan 1372/73. He was
the son of 44. William de Bohun and 45. Elizabeth de Badlesmere. He
married 23. Joan FitzAlan Aft. 9 Sep 1359.
23. Joan FitzAlan, died 7 Apr 1419. She was the daughter of 46.
Richard FitzAlan and 47. Alianor Plantagenet.

Children of Humphrey de Bohun and Joan FitzAlan are:
11i.Alianore de Bohun, born ca. 1366; died 3 Oct 1399 in Minoresses
Convent, Aldgate, England; married Thomas Plantagenet Bef. 24 Aug 1376.
ii.Mary de Bohun, born ca. 1370; died 4 Jul 1394 in Peterborough
Castle, England; married Henry IV of England ca. 1380.

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