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From: Leo van de Pas< >
Subject: Re: William Fiennes, "Sire de Fiennes et de Tingry"
Date: 3 Feb 1998 01:41:10 -0800


At 06:14 PM 2/2/98 -1000, you wrote:
>1. Does anyone have the ancestry of William Fiennes, "Sire de Fiennes et de
>Tingry" --- who reportedly married Blanche de Brienne?
>
>2. Was this William Fiennes, supra, related to Sir William Fiennes [died
>1359] --- who reportedly married Joan de Say?
>
>D. Spencer Hines

Dear Spencer,
Question 2:

Enguerrand de Fiennes, Seigneur de Fiennes, Lord of Wendover
had amongst others, two sons, the younger is William (Guillaume II)
de Fiennes, Lord of Wendover, who died in 1302 and married (not
in this order) Blanche de Brienne.
The other son is Sir Giles de Fiennes (died 1293) and his son
is John de Fienes(1331) (I seem to have spellings with one n and 2 ns
in the middle)
John who died in 1331, is the father of Sir John de Fiennes (died 1351)
and he is the father of William de Fiennes (died 1359) spouse of
Joan de Say.

Question 1 :

1.William (Guillaume II) de Fiennes, Lord of Wendover
died 11 July 1302

2.Enguerrand de Fiennes, Seigneur de Fiennes, Lord of Wendover
married
3.NN de Conde (with accent on e)

4.Guillaume I de Fienes, died 1240
5.Agnes de Dammartin

6.Jacques de Conde, Seigneur de Conde, Bailleul & Moriammez
7.NN

8,Ingelram I de Fienes, died circa 1207
9.Sibyl de Tingrie, died after 1217

10.Alberic II, Comte de Dammartin, died 20 September 1200
11.Mahaut (Mabilie) de Clermont, died after October 1200

12.NN
13.NN

14.NN
15.NN

16.Eustace II de Fienes
17.Anne de Dreux

18.Pharamuse de Boulogne
19.

20.Alberic I, Comte de Dammartin-en-Goele, died after 1181
21.Clemence de Dammartin

22.Renaud, Comte de Clermont-en-Beauvaisis, died before 1162
23.Clemence de Bar, died after 20 January 1183

24.
25.

32.Conan de Fienes
33. Alice de Bournonville

44.Hugues de Clermont dit de Mouchy, Seigneur de Creil
45.Marguerite de Montdidier

46.Reinald I, Comte de Bar-le-Duc et Mousson
born circa 1090, died 10 March 1149
married circa 1120
47.Gisela de Vaudemont, died 1141

64.Eustache I de Fienes
65.Adele de Furnes

66.Louis de Bournonville
67.Silvie

90.Hildouin IV de Montdidier, Comte de Roucy, died 1063
married circa 1031
91.Adele (Alice) de Roucy, born circa 1014 Roucy, Aisne, died 1063

92.Thierry I, Comte de Bar-le-Duc, died 2 January 1105
married circa 1065
93.Ermentrude de Bourgogne, died 8 March 1105

94.Gerhard, Comte de Vaudemont, died before 1118
95.Helwide von Dagsburg, died before 1126

Sources:
Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europaischen Staaten,
by W.K. Prinz von Isenburg

The Complete Peerage,
by H.A. Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden

The Plantagenet Ancestry,
by Lt.Col W.H. Turton

The Lineage and Ancestry of
HRH Prince Charles, Prince of Wales
by Gerald Paget

An Account of the families of Lennard and Barrett,
1908, by Thomas Barrett-Lennard

Europaischen Stammtafeln, by Schwennicke.

Hope this helps.
Leo van de Pas

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