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From: "Todd A. Farmerie" <>
Subject: RE:Moslem Ancestors
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 15:49:50 -0500


Leo van de Pas wrote:
>
> At 07:27 PM 12/1/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >I think this Dona Sancha is incorrect. While Uracca had an unmarried
> >aunt and an unmarried daughter of this name, this is the first I have
> >seen her assigned such a sister.
> ........Your remark made me look into Isenburg, he makes Uracca an only
> child of that marriage. However, Schwennicke muddies the waters:
> He gives Alfonso VI and Constance de Bourgogne a second daughter:
> Elvira in between brackets (Sancha) died young.

Hmm. I wonder what his source is . . .

> ..........Your attempt to restore Zaida as Sancha's mother sounds
> acceptable. However, she is still not the daughter of the Emir of Seville.

Well, not my attempt. I am entirely undecided. There is a strong
movement to "reclaim" muslim ancestors who have been purged from
pedigrees by the desire for pure christian blood. This has resulted in
giving a lot more credence to vague traditions and rumors about such
connections than perhaps one should. (My favorite argument was one
which essentially said that the lack of any documentation for such a
connection was proof that it must have been actively purged, and hence
must be true.

As to the Emir, she was his daughter-in-law, and even the Emir was
cannot be shown to descend from Muhammed.

> Sadly, Turton is wrong then as well.
> However, was there a Sancha Rodriguez de Lare who married Gonzalo Ruiz II
> Giron? And who were her parents?

She was Sancha Rodriguez de Toron~o, daughter of Rodrigo Fernandez de
Toron~o. It was only later genealogists that made her into a Lara. As
far as I have been able to reconstruct, she had no Lara blood
whatsoever.

ta

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