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From: "Don Mcarthur" <>
Subject: Re: Tollemanche family
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:41:06 +0200


Oops, I missed out a generation between 2 and 3, see below

>
> Karen wrote
> >
> > I find the reference to Lionel Tollemanche very interesting. I have
> been
> > searching for information on a Lionel Tollemanche, the father of Thomas
> > Tollemanche (Talmadge). Supposedly, Lionel married Catherine Cromwell
> > daughter of Oliver Cromwell. Thomas Talmage died in 1690 in New
England.
> >
> The Lionel b c 1420 was the 3g gfather of the Lionel who married Katerina
> Cromwell, line follows.
>
> 1 Lionel b c 1420 Sproughton, SFK, d 27 May 1477, m Bef 1437
> Isabel NN
> 2 John, b 1450 Bentley, SFK, m
> Anne, dau of Roger Lowth of Sawtry Hunts, she d Bef 1487

iii) Lionel, b 1483, d 1553, m c 1504
Edith, dau of Edmund Joice of Creekshall, SFK
their son Lionel(3) was b c 1515 in Creekshall
continues as before

> 3 Lionel b 1483 in Bentley/Helmingham, bur 2 Jan 1571/2 in Helmingham
> Dorothy, dau of Sir Richard Wentworth of Nettlestead by Anne Tyrell
> 4 Lyonell b 1545 in Helmingham, d 11 Dec 1557 in Helmingham, m
> Susannah dau of Ambrose Jermyn of Rushbrook, SFK by Anne Heveningham
> 5 Lionel, ~ 14 Dec 1562 in Helmingham, bur 5 Sep 1612 in Helmingham[DEP
> has 1592],
> Katerina, 18 Feb 1580 in Nth Elmham, NFK, dau of Henry 2nd Baron

> Cromwell by Mary Paulet
> 6a Maria, ~ 6 Jul 1583, in Helmingham
> 6b Katerina, ~ 7 Aug 1586 in Helmingham
> 6c Ann, ~ 9 Nov 1589, in Helmingham
> 6d Lionel, ~ 15 Aug 1591, in Helmingham
> 6e Robert, ~ 10 Dec 1592, in Helmingham
> 6f Edmund, b 9 Jun 1596, ~ 20 Jun 1596 in Helmingham.
>
> I did not find your Thomas, it may be that I missed him or he was
> christened in another parish. Katerina was the 2nd cousin twice removed
of
> The Lord Protector.
>
> I have copied this to the Suffolk discussion group, hopefully someone
there
> may be able to help you with Thomas.
>
> Regards,
>
> Don McArthur.
>

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