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From: Leo van de Pas <>
Subject: Re: Newgrange, Co. Meath, pre history peoples
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 11:25:37 +0800


I have read that stones cannot be carbondated. Which gives also problems
with dating the pyramids.
Leo

At 04:37 PM 9/3/97 -1000, you wrote:
>
>Thanks much for the information, the book I have is probably incorrect,
>at the suggestion of another member I am going to join the another list
>and ask them if they know about this place. Have no idea how to carbon date
>stone, that was stated in the same book
> in the same volume. If anyone has more info on Newgrange I would
>be interested, thanks very much. Jill
>
>
>: Newgrange at 2500BC is anywhere from 1200 to 2000 years too early for
>: the Milesian Invasion from whom the O'Neills (and every other Irishman)
>: is descended from in some way (see my comment on marriages below). There
>: was the Tuatha de Dana and Furblog tribe prior to the invasion by the
>: sons of Mils...possibly they built it. I don't think anyone knows
>: exactly who, how, when or why it is there...there is a lot of
>: speculation (theories). Because of marriages between tribes/races I
>: suppose every Irishman of today could be a descendant of the builders of
>: Newgrange.
>:
>: Serious question: how do you carbon date stone?
>:
>: Another comment. I've seen the name spelt Niall and Nial and Glunbubh as
>: one word. I don't believe either is "more" correct. Early Irish, like
>: English I suppose, was spelt in the fashion the writer was comfortable
>: with...but then early Irish writings consisted of notches made along the
>: length of a stick so I'm left to wonder who might have translated it and
>: decided what was correct. Druid/Christian monks?
>:
>: Jill O'Neall Ching wrote:
>: > Thanks Phil, Yes I realize that the more recent forerunners of
>: > Nial Gluin Dubh (thanks for the correct spelling)
>: > were much too early to be builders of Newgrange as it is carbon dated
>: > at c 2500BC (was this its heyday?-do we know which families are
>associated
>: > w/ it?)
>: > which is late for monolithic mounuments anyway, but I was wondering
>: > if anyone would know of which (if any) of Nial's predecesor's might of
>: > had any connection to this site. Maybe no one knows this answer,
>perhaps
>: > there is
>: > no way to determine, but it seems that such a prominent family may well
>of
>: > crossed paths with such a distinctive place, after its heyday, thanks
>to
>: > ANYONE with info.
>: > Jill
>: >
>: > >From Scotch-Irish-L:
>: > : They may have been ancestors in some way to Nial Gluin Dubh but he or
>his
>: > : descendants would not have been the builders or original users of it.
>: > Much
>: > : too early (by the archaeologist's estimation) for him to have been
>: > connected
>: > : with it in it's "heyday".
>: > :
>: > : Phil
>:
>
>

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