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From: "Jill O'Neall Ching" <>
Subject: Re: Newgrange, Co. Meath, pre history peoples
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 16:37:25 -1000


Thanks much for the information, the book I have is probably incorrect,
at the suggestion of another member I am going to join the another list
and ask them if they know about this place. Have no idea how to carbon date
stone, that was stated in the same book
in the same volume. If anyone has more info on Newgrange I would
be interested, thanks very much. Jill

: Newgrange at 2500BC is anywhere from 1200 to 2000 years too early for
: the Milesian Invasion from whom the O'Neills (and every other Irishman)
: is descended from in some way (see my comment on marriages below). There
: was the Tuatha de Dana and Furblog tribe prior to the invasion by the
: sons of Mils...possibly they built it. I don't think anyone knows
: exactly who, how, when or why it is there...there is a lot of
: speculation (theories). Because of marriages between tribes/races I
: suppose every Irishman of today could be a descendant of the builders of
: Newgrange.
:
: Serious question: how do you carbon date stone?
:
: Another comment. I've seen the name spelt Niall and Nial and Glunbubh as
: one word. I don't believe either is "more" correct. Early Irish, like
: English I suppose, was spelt in the fashion the writer was comfortable
: with...but then early Irish writings consisted of notches made along the
: length of a stick so I'm left to wonder who might have translated it and
: decided what was correct. Druid/Christian monks?
:
: Jill O'Neall Ching wrote:
: > Thanks Phil, Yes I realize that the more recent forerunners of
: > Nial Gluin Dubh (thanks for the correct spelling)
: > were much too early to be builders of Newgrange as it is carbon dated
: > at c 2500BC (was this its heyday?-do we know which families are
associated
: > w/ it?)
: > which is late for monolithic mounuments anyway, but I was wondering
: > if anyone would know of which (if any) of Nial's predecesor's might of
: > had any connection to this site. Maybe no one knows this answer,
perhaps
: > there is
: > no way to determine, but it seems that such a prominent family may well
of
: > crossed paths with such a distinctive place, after its heyday, thanks
to
: > ANYONE with info.
: > Jill
: >
: > >From Scotch-Irish-L:
: > : They may have been ancestors in some way to Nial Gluin Dubh but he or
his
: > : descendants would not have been the builders or original users of it.
: > Much
: > : too early (by the archaeologist's estimation) for him to have been
: > connected
: > : with it in it's "heyday".
: > :
: > : Phil
:

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