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From: Dave Thomas <>
Subject: Re: Elise ap Madog
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 10:21:52 +0100


In article <5rraoo$52t$1@news.campus.mci.net>, Stewart Baldwin
<> writes
>
>
>Elise ap Madog was the son of Madog ap Maredudd (d. 1160), by his wife
>Susanna, who was daughter of Gruffudd ap Cynan (d. 1137) by his wife
>Angharad, daughter of Owain ap Edwin. Madog ap Maredudd is number 6
>on my recently posted ancestor table of Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Gruffudd
>ap Cynan is number 8 on the same chart, and Angharad is number 9.
>Thus, you can get several generations of Elise's ancestry by just
>referring to my Llywelyn ap Iorwerth chart. Bartrum's Welsh
>genealogies do not show any children for Elise, so it would appear
>that none of the early Welsh manuscripts tell of any claimed
>descendants for Elise.
>

That's a big help. Thanks very much Stewart.

Regards
--
Dave Thomas

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