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From: Stewart Baldwin <>
Subject: Re: William the Conqueror
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 17:02:56 -0500


>Vickie (Elam) White wrote:
>>
>> D. Spencer Hines wrote --
>>
>> <<Henry II "The Lion in Winter" would undoubtedly love all the attention
>> he gets nowadays. He certainly got little respect from his three sons.
>> Perhaps Rosamond Clifford, who was reportedly his lover from 1166 to her
>> death in 1177, [contrary to the previously expressed opinions of Walter
>> Lee Sheppard, Todd A. Farmerie and Stewart Baldwin] would probably glory
>> in it too.>>
>>
>> I don't recall anyone [sic] claiming that Rosamond was not Henry's lover.
>Rather,
>> it was the claim that she was the mother of Williaim LONGESPEE that was
>> in dispute.
>>
>> Vickie (Elam) White
>>
>
>Please read precisely what I wrote. The words speak clearly for
>themselves---if read closely. Actually, other issues were in dispute,
>rather than the one you call out---and they were of more immediate
>critical importance as well. The relevant posts are all archived in Deja
>News.
>--
>
>D. Spencer Hines "Black care rarely sits behind a rider whose pace is
>fast enough." ***** Theodore Roosevelt ***** (1888)

I was rather surprised to find out about the above opinion which I had
supposedly expressed. In fact, I recall posting only one item to this
newsgroup (other than this one) in which Rosamund was mentioned, and I
offered no opinion regarding the interval of time during which she was
Henry's mistress. In that posting, I did point out the
inappropriateness of your previous personal attack against Walter Lee
Sheppard, but I did not state whether or not I agreed with his
comments, and any "reading between the lines" which you may have done
on that occasion does not constitute a statement by me. With that in
mind, it might be appropriate for you to play close attention to the
following words:

Please read precisely what I wrote. The words speak clearly for
themselves---if read closely. Actually, other issues were in dispute,
rather than the one you call out---and they were of more immediate
critical importance as well. The relevant posts are all archived in
Deja News.

Stewart Baldwin

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