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From: Nat Taylor <>
Subject: Re: From CHARLEMAGNE to EDWARD
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:19:07 GMT


In article <>,
(Nat Taylor) wrote:

> The tentative descent of Ingelger
> and the early counts of Anjou from Hugh the Abbot was tendered by
> Professor Bernard Bachrach of the University of Minnesota in one of
> numerous articles he has published on the Angevins, as well as in his book
> _Fulk Nerra: the Neo-Roman Consul_ (Berkeley, 1993), see for example table
> at p. 262.
>
> However, as the identification of Hugh the Abbot with Hugh, son of
> Charlemagne is not correct, this descent as given by Alan Wilson is
> invalid.
>
> Nat Taylor

I should add that Bernard Bachrach adds further Carolingian ancestry to
the early Angevins (before the infusion brought by Adele de Vermandois,
wife of Geoffrey Greymantle) in his identification of Gerberga, wife of
Fulk the good, as daughter of Ratburnus, viscount of Vienne (a descendant
of Louis II, king of Italy) and Gerberga, granddaughter of Childebrand,
count of Autun (op. cit., table at p. 274 and text in chap. 1). It first
appeared in an article "Some observations on the origins of Countess
Gerberga of the Angevins: an essay in the application of the
Tellenbach-Werner Prosopographical Method." _Medieval Prosopography_ 7/2
(1986), 1-23.

Nat Taylor

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