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Subject: Re: Getting the ball rolling...
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 13:27:23 UNDEFINED


In article <3rfj7e$> Anders M. Berg <> writes:
>Sophia,the queen of Valdemar of Denmark, is the daughter of Volodar' of Minsk,
>son of Gleb, *not* Vladimir of Halicz.
>This is clearly stated in a 1983 paper in Swedish by Hans Gillingstam, problably
>this country's top medieval genealogist. He is referring to a Finnish article
>(in Swedish) from 1976 by J. Gallen, specifically dealing with queen Sophia.
>_Vem var Valdemar den stores drottning Sofia?_ (Historisk Tidskrift for Finland
>1976).

Well, well, well. I guess that answers that little question. And nulls and
voids the "bet" offer in the other post... :)

>Regarding king Sverker I, it is a remarkable fact that *nothing* is known about
>his ancestors. Pretty odd when dealing with royalty.

Not *too* odd when dealing with royalty in certain locales; I think that the
Swedish kings were worse than most for getting replaced (regularly) by
unrelated people about whom nothing is known. (my interpretation of info found
in _Rulers & Governments of the World: Vol. 1, Earliest times to 1491_,
compiled by Martha Ross, London & New York: Bowker, (C)1978. A most excellent
resource, I have found, and usually pretty reliable.)

In any case, thanks much to all for the info!

Aardy R. DeVarque
Feudalism: Serf & Turf

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