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From: Kay Allen AG <>
Subject: Re: Ancestral Home - Arden Family Portraits
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 1990 18:02:49 -0700


The Arderne family sprang from Northamptonshire and does not have an
actual connection with the Arden families of Warwickshire.

Am just returned from a trip and will try to see what I can do to help
the posters on Arderne and Arden when I have had a chance to catch my
breath.

Kay Allen AG

Kay Robinson wrote:
>
> On 7 Jul 2000 20:24:08 -0700, (kimberley
> valentine) wrote:
>
> >Hello everyone,
> >
> >I was wondering if someone knows if there is still an ancestral home for the
> >ARDEN family? I would like to know if it is possible to obtain copies of
> >portraits for this family. If they exist, I would think they would be
> >gracing the walls of some estate belonging to this family.
>
> The only ancestral home still standing (only in part though) is Harden
> Hall, now known as Arden Castle or Cromwell's Castle at Bredbury.
>
> The hall was built by Sir John de Arderne of Aldford, Alvanly and
> Elford as a home for himself and his bride Joan de Stokeport in 1326.
>
> The name Harden is the pronuctiation for Harwarden, which is in Clwyd
> where this particular branch came from prior to that date (the other
> branch being from Warwickshire).
>
> The exterior of the present surviving part dates from around 1597, the
> larger and extended later house being attributed to Ralph Arderne
> [1525-1608] the east and west wings being the earlier timber
> structure.
>
> The 'Tudor' wings were dismantled in the ninteenth century and
> replaced by brick and slate, these remain to this day.
>
> Quite a lot is known about the house and I'll not go into it's
> structural history here but tell you of it's portraits.
>
> The walls of the great hall were hung with portraits of the Arderne
> ancestors, some of these being transferred to Pepper Hall after the
> marriage of John Arderne and Sarah Pepper on the 30th Aug 1735.
>
> The Ardernes finally left Harden Hall in 1790, presumably taking with
> them most of the historic items of furniture and works of art. These
> went to Pepper Hall in Yorks.
>
> Unhappily I have no way of finding out the location of Pepper Hall or
> as to whether it still stands, or indeed whether the Warks. branch
> still has a seat but at least there's a suggestion that the portraits
> have survived.
>
> Kay
>
> All replies to newsgroup thank you
> --------------------------------------------
> A good end cannot sanctify evil, nor must
> we ever do evil that good may come of it.
> Force may subdue, but Love gains, and he
> that forgives first wins the laurel.
>
> William Penn 1644-1718
> -----------------------------------------
> Kay Robinson
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