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From: Kay Allen AG <>
Subject: Re: De Brus and/or De Braose?
Date: Thu, 03 May 1990 15:29:52 -0700


wrote:
>
> I am quite confused about the ancestors of these 2(?) families. One
> source has them both from the same, as follows:
>
> Name: Robert de Brusse b: ABT. 1010
>
> Father: Rogenvald b: ABT. 980 in Norway
> Mother: Ostrida of Gothland
>
> Marriage 1: Emma of Brittany
>
> Children:
> William de Braose b: 1049, Bouze, Normandy
> Allan de Brusse b: ABT. 1050, Argyll, Scotland
> Adam de Brus b: ABT. 1051, Carrick, Argyll, Scotland
> Philina de Brusse b: ABT. 1053, Argyll, Scotland
> Hortina de Brusse b: ABT. 1055, Argyll, Scotland
> Amicia de Brusse b: ABT. 1057, Argylle, Scotland
>
> Is this correct or are they 2 completely different families?
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

There are two different families: Brus/Bruce and Braose/Briouze.

The founder of the Brus/Bruce family in England and Scotland did marry
Emma of Brittany, according to my database. The only child I have for
them is Robert, b. c. 1072. The founder was b. c. 1030. So your source
needs much more checking as it seems a bit screwy. I also think that you
will find that the family is not of Norwegian origins. Personally, I
think you need to look for a new source. :-)

Kay Allen AG

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