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Subject: Re: THOMAS 4/4/99
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 00:27:00 EST

In a message dated 3/31/99 15:03:00 Eastern Standard Time,
writes:
<< Sue, I have several THOMAS' in Carmarthenshire. Can you give me some more
information to see if we have a match?
Shauna >>

Hi Shauna, Following is some THOMAS info. Hope it transfers thru cyberspace
OK. I have a lot more info on the U.S. descendants, if we're looking for/at
the same line. I'm much more interested to find out anything about the ones
who stayed in Wales. Am keeping my fingers and toes crossed :D [NOTE: I
called the first 2 parents "First Father" and "First Mother" because I have
no idea of their names, yet.
Also, I reckon the "Alexander" baptized 11 Oct 1740 was also spelled
"Alixander" like his father, but I use the other spelling to keep them
straight in my mind.

A few items from the Will of John THOMAS (b. abt 1670):
Will dated March ye 29th 1715
"I, John Thomas, of the pitt of Mothvey in the County of Carmarthen[sic],
yeoman . . .
I give unto Mredith my brother 20s and two Shootes of Clothes and I give to
my sister Nel one yew an lamb and to my brother William one yew an lamb and
one pig and I give to my sister Margaret one shilling, and one shilling to my
father. And I give to Anne Thomas one sixpence and to John William one
six-pence. And all the rest of my goods I do give them totally unto
Alixander Thomas and I do make him my executor . . .
Signed in the presence of William Lewis and John William Thomas [his mark]"

So, John was a yeoman (a farmer who farms his own land, one step below the
gentry). He may also have been a miner, as he describes himself as being "of
the pitt of Mothvey" (Myddfai).

John leaves bequests to each of his 5 siblings and to his father. He must
have died relatively young, as he pre-deceased his own father.

Now the first Alixander probably emigrated to Cornwall to work in the tin
mines around Truro and St. Agnes. The rest of the family apparently remained
in the Myddfai area. Soooo, there should be a whole slew of THOMAS
descendants in Wales.

If anyone has any information, I would be deeply grateful :)
Thank you, Sue


Here goes:

Descendants of: "First Father" Thomas

1 "First Father" Thomas b. ABT 1650 Wales
m. "First Mother" Thomas
2 Mredith Thomas (male)
2 Nel Thomas
2 Elizabeth Thomas
2 William Thomas
2 Margaret Thomas
2 John Thomas b. ABT 1670 Myddfai, Carmarthen Co., Wales d. ABT 1715 Wales
(Will dated March ye 29th 1715)
m. UFNF ULN Thomas
3 Anne Thomas
3 John William Thomas
3 Alixander Thomas b. ABT 1693 Wales d. ABT 1760
m. UFNF ULN Thomas
4 Elizabeth Thomas baptized 12 Aug 1728 Cornwall, England
4 Richard Thomas baptized 28 Feb 1730 Cornwall, England
4 John Thomas baptized 3 Apr 1738 Cornwall, England
4 Alexander Thomas baptized 11 Oct 1740 Cornwall, England d. 14 Feb
1802 Somerset Co., PA
m. Catherine Besore
Alexander served in Revolutionary War, injured several times,
received 2 patents of land for his service. He had 8 children.
5 Christian Thomas b. ABT 1765
5 Benjamin Thomas b. 1767
m. UNKNOWN
6 George Thomas b. 2 May 1798 ? d. 10 Oct 1836 ?
m. Eve Miller b. 7 Sep 1799 ? d. 7 Jul 1884 Johnstown, PA
[Benjamin also had 10 other children]
5 George Henry Thomas b. 1769 Bedford County, PA d. 10 Jan 1854
Somerset County, PA
m. 1795 PA Veronica (Franny/Fanny) Saylor b. 24 Sep 1773 PA d.
29 Dec. 1861 PA (Last name may be Seiler. Grandfather was a Mennonite Bishop
in PA)
6 Peter Thomas b. ABT 1821 PA
m. Barbara ULNF
Barbara: Age 30 in Conemaugh Twp. 1850 Census
[George Henry Thomas also had 8 other children]
5 Michael Thomas b. 15 Aug 1774 d. 1 Oct 1852
m. Magdalena Maust b. 25 Dec 1775 d. 17 Dec 1856
5 Alexander Thomas, Jr. b. Mar 1775 d. Dec 1858
m. Elizabeth Meyers b. ABT 1777 d. ABT 1800
5 Mary Thomas b. ABT 1777
5 UFNF Thomas b. ABT 1779
5 Jacob Thomas b. 22 Jul 1785 d. 17 Feb 1855
m. Mary Kuckler b. ABT 1787 d. ABT 1859

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
John Thomas (b. ABT 1670 in Myddfai, Carmarthen[shire]) was my (7)
GGGGGGG-Grandfather.
Alixander Thomas (6) GGGGGG-Grandfather
Alexander Thomas (5) GGGGG-Grandfather
Benjamin Thomas (4) GGGG-Grandfather
George Thomas GGG-Grandfather
Peter Thomas G-G-Grandfather
Elizabeth Thomas (Peter's daughter) G-Grandmother

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