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From: "Mike Boyd" <>
Subject: Re: [AYR] fenwick kirk session minutes 1644-99, note 106
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:21:06 +1000
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Jim
I do not know in this particular case, but I did notice that some of the
Lords and I think I saw an grave in Kilwinning Abbey Churchyard where
someone was the manger of an Estate.

So perhaps Rev Guthrie had someone to manage or work his land for him. I
assume that this was quite common with the Landed Genetry anyway.

Mike Boyd
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From: "Jim Bundy" <>
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Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AYR] fenwick kirk session minutes 1644-99, note 106


> Hi Ken,
> I remember reading that Guthrie was so popular, that people moved to
> Fenwick from as far away as Glasgow (a long way, no M77 in those days :)
> and built houses on the glebe, so maybe this was a replacement glebe? Its
> a little strange to think of a minister farming on the side these days,
> but it probably happens in places.
> Jim
> Bundy
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> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 1:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [AYR] fenwick kirk session minutes 1644-99, note 106
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>
>> Hi Jim & All,
>>
>> I think, in modern parlance, Lord Boyd wasn't paying his church pledge!
>> Though it would probably have been an assessment on heritable properties
>> in the
>> parish and not a "free will" offering. If the Boyds leaned toward the
>> royalist
>> side, it could have been a political thing since Fenwick was such a
>> Covenanter
>> stronghold under Guthrie.
>>
>> The "glebe" is the tract given to the minister to farm, or have farmed
>> for
>> him. So apparently some new lands were being purchased for the glebe?
>>
>> Ken Cuthbertson
>> Albuquerque, NM
>>
>>
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