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From: "Ella Ross" <>
Subject: Re: [AYR] Mary Mathie (Married to John Wilson)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 17:03:50 +1000
References: <20050905065337.69878.qmail@web86211.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>


I think you will find it's West Nile Street which is in the centre of
Glasgow.

Ella Ross
----- Original Message -----
From: "IAIN WILSON" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AYR] Mary Mathie (Married to John Wilson)


> Hello Lesley
>
> 1863 WILSON JOHN to CALDWELL JANE in BLYTHSWOOD,
> GLASGOW CITY, LANARK. GROS 644/06 0406
>
> Details on the mariage certificate are
>
> 09th October 1863 at West Mile Street (?), Glasgow
> John age 24, 11 Cathcart Place, Sauchiehall street,
> Glasgow.
>
> Parents John Wilson (Deceased) & Mary Mathie
>
> Jane age 19, 140/a4A West N(M)ile Street, Glasgow.
> William Caldwell & Jean Caldwell (Her maiden name is
> also Caldwell)
>
> Witnessed by
>
> James Mathie and William Caldwell
>
> I know that William Caldwell is Jane's Father but
> there is no indication on the certificate of any
> relationship of either James or William to either
> John or Jane. It may be that as Johns's father was
> deceased that John's Grandfather and Jane's father
> signbed as witnesses.
>
> There are 9 children for John and Jane
>
> I have just found the death certificate for Mary
> Wilson (Mathie) and it appears she was born +- 1812
> parents James Mathie and Mary Smith
>
> After a lot of frustration it justs needs a nudge in
> the right direction.
>
> Thanks for your help and Best regards
>
> Iain
>
> Forfar
> Scotland
>
>
> --- Lesley Bone <> wrote:
>
>> Dear Iain
>>
>> The IGI gives the following, so I would expect Mary
>> Mathie's father to be
>> James Mathie as one of the children was called
>> after him
>>
>>
> <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/individual_record.asp?recid=500191974894&lds=1&region=2&regionfriendly=British+Isles&juris1=Scot&juris2=&juris3=&juris4=&regionfriendly=&juris1friendly=Scotland&juris2friendly=&juris3friendly=&juris4friendly=>WILSON
>>
>> - International Genealogical Index
>> Gender: Female Birth: 20 MAR 1873 Blythswood,
>> Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
>> 2.
>>
> <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/individual_record.asp?recid=500192318801&lds=1&region=2&regionfriendly=British+Isles&juris1=Scot&juris2=&juris3=&juris4=&regionfriendly=&juris1friendly=Scotland&juris2friendly=&juris3friendly=&juris4friendly=>JANE
>>
>> CALDWELL WILSON - International Genealogical Index
>> Gender: Female Birth: 15 JAN 1866 Blythswood,
>> Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
>> 3.
>>
> <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/individual_record.asp?recid=500193759905&lds=1&region=2&regionfriendly=British+Isles&juris1=Scot&juris2=&juris3=&juris4=&regionfriendly=&juris1friendly=Scotland&juris2friendly=&juris3friendly=&juris4friendly=>EVA
>>
>> CLARE WILSON - International Genealogical Index
>> Gender: Female Birth: 07 MAY 1874 Govan, Lanark,
>> Scotland
>> 4.
>>
> <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/individual_record.asp?recid=500192547510&lds=1&region=2&regionfriendly=British+Isles&juris1=Scot&juris2=&juris3=&juris4=&regionfriendly=&juris1friendly=Scotland&juris2friendly=&juris3friendly=&juris4friendly=>JOHN
>>
>> CHARLES WILSON - International Genealogical Index
>> Gender: Male Birth: 23 NOV 1864 Blythswood, Glasgow,
>> Lanark, Scotland
>> 9.
>>
> <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/individual_record.asp?recid=500193195827&lds=1&region=2&regionfriendly=British+Isles&juris1=Scot&juris2=&juris3=&juris4=&regionfriendly=&juris1friendly=Scotland&juris2friendly=&juris3friendly=&juris4friendly=>JAMES
>>
>> MATHIE WILSON - International Genealogical Index
>> Gender: Male Birth: 26 MAY 1868 Blythswood, Glasgow,
>> Lanark, Scotland
>>
>>
>> The 1881 Census gives the family of John Wilson and
>> Jane Caldwell
>>
>> Dwelling: 4 Roxburgh St Roclea Terr
>> Census Place: Govan, Lanark, Scotland
>> Source: FHL Film 0203691 GRO Ref
>> Volume 646-2 EnumDist
>> 34 Page 23
>> Marr Age Sex Birthplace
>> John WILSON M 42 M Glasgow,
>> Lanark, Scotland
>> Rel: Head
>> Occ: Bleacher & Finisher Employing 15
>> Men 4 Girls And 21 Boys
>> Jane C. WILSON M 37 F Glasgow,
>> Lanark, Scotland
>> Rel: Wife
>> Jane C. WILSON 15 F Glasgow,
>> Lanark, Scotland
>> Rel: Daur
>> Occ: Scholar
>> John C. WILSON 16 M Glasgow,
>> Lanark, Scotland
>> Rel: Son
>> Occ: Woolen & Manufacturers Apprentice
>> James M. WILSON 12 M Glasgow,
>> Lanark, Scotland
>> Rel: Son
>> Occ: Scholar
>> Eva Clara WILSON 6 F
>> Partick, Lanark, Scotland
>> Rel: Daur
>> George C. WILSON 4 M
>> Partick, Lanark, Scotland
>> Rel: Son
>> Mary T. WILSON 2 F Partick,
>> Lanark, Scotland
>> Rel: Daur
>> Janet KENNEDY U 20 F Greenock,
>> Renfrew, Scotland
>> Rel: Servt
>> Occ: Domestic Servt
>>
>> Have you looked at the Marriage certificate for John
>> Wilson & Jane
>> Caldwell. I should indicate whether Mary Mathie was
>> still alive.
>>
>> http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/index.aspx
>>
>> If she was you will be able to search for her death
>> certificate by putting
>> in both her surnames.
>>
>> I can't see an obvious candidate on the 1881 census
>> as there are too many
>> to choose from.
>>
>> Lesley Bone
>> mailto:
>>
>>
>>
>> At 22:44 04/09/2005, you wrote:
>> >I am attempting to find the birth and parents of
>> Mary
>> >Mathie (my GGG Grandmother) who married John Wilson
>> >12/12/1835, Kilwinning. They had a son John who
>> >married Jane Caldwell 04(06)/10/1863 Glasgow,
>> Lanark,
>> >Scotland.
>> >I cannot find a birth for Mary and therfore
>> parents.
>> >
>> >Is there anyone out there researching the same tree
>> or
>> >who could shed some light on this connection or
>> where
>> >I go next as I seen to have hit a dead end.
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Iain
>>
>
>
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