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From: Robin Aird <>
Subject: Re: "Earl of Carrick" Steamer
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 17:49:51 +0000


George M. McCaig wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
> I am in the process of examining the 1858 Death Registers
> for Ayrshire. The following item caught my eye.
> On January 6, 1858, deaths were registered for the following
> men, victims of the shipwreck of the Steamer "Earl of
> Carrick. The wreck occurred December 20, 1857 at Point
> Dalby, near Peel, Isle of Man.
>
> James McCamillie, 21, Fireman, from St. Quivox
> Thomas McGuffie, 15, Cook, Newton on Ayr,
> Robert Paton, 63, Master Mariner (a passenger) Newton
> James Muir, 58, Seaman, Newton
> Israel Moore, 39, Winch Driver, Newton
> William Lawson, 50, Seaman, Newton
> Robert Campbell, 21, Engineer, Newton
> James Caddis, 35, Fireman, Ayr
> David Baillie, 28, Seaman, Ayr
>
> Informant for these deaths was John Lyon, Seaman, a survivor
> (no mention if he was the only survivor). At the time of
> registration of these deaths their bodies had not been
> recovered.
>
> I still have the film. If any of you have an interest in any
> of these men I can check for more detail for you. The names
> of parents were only listed for a few of them, and of those
> married, no spouses names were given.
>
> George M. McCaig
> Dwight, Ontario, Canada.
>
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Dear George McCaig

Thank you for the information on the Earl of Carrick. I now have the
names of all but one on board. There was a crew of 13 and one passenger
(Cptn Paton). All perished apart from John Lyon who I believe was the
Mate and one James Watt. The two names I have missing from the list of
those lost are:

Anne CameronStewardess
Cptn AllanbeyMaster

I would certainly love to have as much information as you have on the
film please as I am not just interested in creating family trees, rather
putting as much flesh on the bones as possible, if you pardon the
indelicate phrase.

If anyone would like some further information on this shipwreck I have
quite a bit. The John Lyon that you mention was my gg grandfather. I
have the transcript of the Isle of Man newspaper in which the wreck was
reported and some text of the official enquiry. Incidentally he was
shipwrecked again in 1859 whilst on a Steam ship the "Emerald" in Ramsey
bay again off the Isle on Man. This time there was no loss of life.

I have an old photo of John and his wife too.

Regards
Robin Aird

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