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From: "Ada Ackerly" <>
Subject: Re: [GEELONG] What is the difference between Alderman andCouncillor?
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 15:29:06 +1000
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Hi Susie,

I was about to suggest, as a councillor chosen by the councillors to be
their leader/ Mayor, that it might mean a councillor who previously held an
elected office/ Mayor, to show his stature. That was OK for Reeves, but
didn't work for the others.

Regards Ada

Ada Ackerly. Melbourne
Formerly Ackerly Docusearch
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From: "Susie Zada" <>
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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:30 AM
Subject: [GEELONG] What is the difference between Alderman and Councillor?


> Hi Folks,
>
> I'm currently working on the Market Committee Minutes for the Town of
> Geelong.
>
> This Committee lists some people as "Ald" [Alderman] and others as "Cr"
> [Councillor]
>
> i.e. the Committee on 19th July 1871 - listed in order ..........
> The Mayor W F DUCKER Esq
> Ald REEVES / Chairman /
> Ald MATHEWS
> Ald WHITCHELL
> Cr INGLIS
> Cr HUNT
>
> Checking the list of Councillors / Mayors from "Geelong: 150 years of
> community leadership 1849-1999" by Norm Houghton it lists the following
>
> DUCKER, W F - Cr Geelong City Council 1868-1875
> DUCKER, W F - M[ayor] Geelong City Council 1870-1872
> REEVES, Robert - Cr Geelong City Council 1863-1882
> REEVES, Robert - M[ayor] Geelong City Council 1872-1873
> MATHEWS, Patrick James - Cr Geelong City Council 1863-1871
> MATHEWS, Patrick James - Cr Geelong City Council 1877-1879
> WHITCHELL, John - Cr Geelong City Council 1863-1873
> INGLIS, Thomas - Cr Geelong City Council 1870-1877
> HUNT, Thomas Barber - Cr Geelong City Council 1868-1877
>
> Can anyone tell me why some were called Alderman and others Councillor? I
> can't see any pattern or reason.
>
> The Australian Concise Oxford Dictionary ...
>
> Alderman:
> 1. [esp hist] a co-opted member of an English county or borough council,
> next in dignity to the Mayor
> 2. [US] the elected governor of a city
> 3. an elected local government councillor
>
> Councillor:
> an elected member of a council, esp. a local one
>
> Is it something to do with seniority??
>
> Hoping someone might have a sensible suggestion - it's just one of those
> things that bugs you when you can't find an answer! <vbg>
>
> Regards ............. Susie Z
>
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