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From: "mike phoenix" <>
Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Hotels and Publicans in South Australia 1836-1984
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:54:15 +1100
References: 115160094 <002101c4f863$c52fa020$3202d9cb@Humorous> <93800155@bigpond.com> <000601c4fa04$934bad40$a905d9cb@Humorous>


Hi! All

Seeing that the subject of hotels and publicans has come up of late, I
thought I'dention that the name of the Botanic Hotel in Adelaide came up in
some papers today - seems that one Sydney William FERRY may have managed the
hotel around 1903.

Can anybody confirm this?


Mike

Mike and Jennie Phoenix
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GREENWAY ACT 2900 AUSTRALIA
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14 January 2005
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Hume" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Hotels and Publicans in South Australia 1836-1984


> Hi again Ian,
>
> No history on the Mintaro hotel in the book I'm afraid, other than it was
> destroyed by fire in 1904 and rebuilt the same year. Muir was at the hotel
> 1850-1858 but the dates are sometimes a little misleading. They pertain to
> the license being granted to the publican, not necessisarily his term of
> residence in the hotel. Strange that the name of the hotel changed twice
> during Muir's term.
>
> Regards
>
> Ron Hume
> Victor Harbor
> South Australia
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Westergaard" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 5:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Hotels and Publicans in South Australia 1836-1984
>
>
>> Thanks Ron
>>
>> The Newmarket date is very useful as it helps narrow down the time when
>> he
>> moved from Hobart to South Australia.
>>
>> Does your book give any details of the history of the Mintaro Hotel?
>>
>> From the dates you have given me and, if the other information given to
>> me
>> is correct that Mathew Bailey Muir was publican at Mintaro from 19 March
>> 1851 to 29 March 1854, it would appear that he may have been the first to
>> name the Mintaro Hotel the "Magpie & Stump". I wonder if there is/was any
>> significance in the name?
>>
>> As he left the Newmarket Hotel on 25 September 1850 and the Mintaro Hotel
>> was established in 1850 I wonder if he did not in fact establish it and
>> the
>> date I have been given is wrong?
>>
>> I have been told that the Mintaro Hotel was where the wagons carrying
>> copper(?) ore from the mines at Burra to Port Wakefield changed horses
>> (bullocks?). So the pub may have been established by the mining company
>> and
>> Mathew Muir employed to manage it?
>>
>> Mathew Muir was a bootmaker in Hobart but his brother-in-law, William
>> Frederick Allen was licensee of the Southern Cross Hotel and may have
>> been
>> instrumental in getting Mathew involved in the licensed trade.
>>
>> Ian Westergaard
>> In Cloudy & Mild Central Otago
>> New Zealand
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ron Hume" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 6:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Hotels and Publicans in South Australia
>> 1836-1984
>>
>>
>>> Hi Ian,
>>>
>>> 1849-25.9.1850 - Newmarket hotel, 1 Nth Tce, Adelaide - Matthew Bailey
>> Muir
>>> 1850-1858 - Magpie and Stump hotel, Burra St, Mintaro
>>> 1850 known as Mintaro hotel again
>>> 1851-3 known as M & S again
>>> 1854-14.10.1976 known as Mintaro hotel again
>>> 15.10.1976 - known as M & S again
>>> No personal info on any publicans in the book, and I can't help with the
>>> wooden staircase, sorry. Hope this helps.
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Ron Hume
>>> Victor Harbor
>>> South Australia
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ian Westergaard" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 5:08 AM
>>> Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Hotels and Publicans in South Australia 1836-1984
>>>
>>>
>>> > Regarding the book "Hotels and Publicans in South Australia 1836-1984"
>>> >
>>> > According to information given to me, Mathew Bailey Muir was publican
>>> > at
>>> > Mintaro from 19 March 1851 to 29 March 1854.
>>> >
>>> > Does the book give any information about Mathew, including whether he
>> was
>>> > publican at any other hotels in South Australia?
>>> >
>>> > Is there a primary source for this type of information and, if there
>>> > is,
>>> > how
>>> > can it be accessed?
>>> >
>>> > Also there is an hotel in Adelaide with a beautiful wooden spiral
>>> > staircase
>>> > which I visited some ten years ago but I have now forgotten the name
>>> > of
>>> > the
>>> > hotel and it's location. Could someone help my memory?
>>> >
>>> > Ian Westergaard
>>> > In Sunny & Warm Central Otago
>>> > New Zealand
>>> >
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