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From: "Doug Price" <>
Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] FW: [AUS-QLD] Cemetery Register - AUSTRALIA WIDE
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 22:19:01 +1000


-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Price [mailto:]
Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 10:15 PM
To: 'sandra armstrong'
Subject: RE: [AUS-QLD] Cemetery Register - AUSTRALIA WIDE

But why have you done all this work!! Surely it should be for the good
of all? I cringe at the idea that genealogy data is to be kept secret,
etc. What are you afraid of? Someone benefiting from your research? I
do it for all to benefit. I do it so all my rellies can benefit. I
hope that all will share such data rather than become a closed shop to
those who can afford the time to sit in genealogy centres for hours.

I restate that there are several models used O/S for societies to
reimburse them for the cost of putting together their databases.

Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: sandra armstrong [mailto:]
Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 9:10 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Cemetery Register - AUSTRALIA WIDE

I just have to buy into this concept of "putting everything on the net".
I use and enjoy the net but I have also belonged to my family history
society for many years.
Family history societies and people like Judy, Heather and Martyn have
worked hard for many years making resources available. How are family
history societies going to survive if every thing is "on the net"- even
for a fee?
I also exist on a low student's allowance but how would societies be
reimbursed for the time and money expended on their cemetery and other
projects? These indexes are their life blood!
I appreciate and applaud what Dianne has done, but our Society has just
digitally imaged over 14 000 headstones in our local cemetery. What
would happen to us if we just "put it on the net"? I know we are all
selfish in wanting our family history for free, but think past that and
into the medium and long term future.
best wishes
Sandra in Maryborough Qld
www.satcom.net.au/mdfhs will show you what efforts we and most FHS's put
in to family history
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Price" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 9:52 PM
Subject: RE: [AUS-QLD] Cemetery Register - AUSTRALIA WIDE


> Hi Pam,
>
> Me again,
>
> I was annoyed by your reply, but that's OK, we need to talk these
things
> thru.
>
> As my earlier email said I am only too keen to contribute to the
digital
> capture of genealogy records.
>
> The work by Judy Webster and Martyn Killion & Heather Garnsey needs to
> be web accessible, with a fee if needed. This model is VERY common in
> the USA.
>
> You raised the question about who would pay for the web hosting of all
> this data. Well, I don't know whether we have one, but with all the
> subs paid to SAGHS, etc, we need an umbrella genealogy group that all
> genealogy groups belong to. This is the norm for a whole range of
> interest groups. I have been involved in them in other specialties.
>
> The genealogy society in Aus is terribly fragmented to the detriment
of
> genealogy data in Aus. When will we ever pull together for the good
of
> all?
>
> Regards
>
> Doug Price
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pam Dowling [mailto:]
> Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 8:08 PM
> To:
> Subject: RE: [AUS-QLD] Cemetery Register - AUSTRALIA WIDE
>
> Hi Doug,
>
> At 16:40 14.12.02 +1000, Doug Price wrote:
> >I have been watching this discussion with some interest. And I must
> >admit that I am a little confused. Pam, is the compilation by Martyn
> >Killion and Heather Garnsey, a list of resources where one can find
> >information or does it have the actual burial/death/etc details? For
> >$9.50, I suspect that it is the former. But will you pls clarify for
> >me?
>
> Your suspicians are right :-) - obviously the book can't incude actual
> individual death details for thousands of cemeteries.
>
> This book lists the date range, religion, type & whereabouts of
> transcripts
> for just under 9,000 cemeteries all over Australia. It gives contact
> details for the groups, societies etc holding the transcripts. For an
> SAE
> and a small donation, they will send details of the burial you seek,
and
> may do further research for a fee.
>
> >I am a member of the SAGHS and the QFHS. The SAGHS has huge
> >computerised databases, accessible thru their Adelaide headquarters.
> >But living in Bris, it is of no use to me. I have been lobbying for
> >these computerised databases to go online, even if a charged needed
to
> >be applied.
>
> Don't you think it's a cause worthy of your continued time and
energy -
> to
> have these made more widely and easily available? I think you should
> continue your lobbying. But it also begs the question, as a member of
> SHGHS, aren't you entitled to have some research done on your behalf
> free
> or for a small fee - otherwise you don't seem to get much value for
> membership from a distance?
>
> >And I feel we need to work towards this with the cemetery records.
Not
> >all of us are young enough, or wealthy to travel.
>
> I agree, and I do understand. I am an Australian living in NZ, and too
> poor
> to visit home again.(sob) :-( Although I am a member of NZSG, I have
no
> NZ
> research, and they have very little Australian material and I can't
get
> to
> their library in Auckland (though they do lend some material by post,
> and
> have a lookup service).
>
> There are many people in difficult research situations like this, so
> wouldn't it make more sense for people to put their energy towards
> putting
> new indices or transcriptions on paper or online, rather than
> duplicating
> the work already done by Judy Webster and Martyn Killion & Heather
> Garnsey?
>
> >I will support any attempts to get this type of data on line.
>
> Perhaps you could get involved in doing some indexing work yourself,
and
> maybe it can follow from that? Don't forget also, that once the
> indexing/transcription work is done, someone still has to pay for and
> maintain a website such as you'd like, or with such helpful
information
> as
> Judy makes available to us for free.
>
> Hope this helps, and answers all your questions.
> Regards
> Pam
>
> An Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ.
>
>
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