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Subject: Re: Marie Salle
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 16:35:17 EDT

In a message dated 10/10/01 9:30:08 AM Central Daylight Time,
writes:

"Marie then married Jean Claude Landry b.1593, sometime in 1633. She died
sometime in 1693 in Port Royal. Does any of this make the picture look any
different? Art.
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ART:

I DO NOT RESEARCH MARIE SALE.

MY ONLY INTEREST IN HE IS THAT SOME OVER ZEALOUS GENEALOGIST MADE A GIGANTIC
LEAP FOLLOWING THE CENSES REPORTS OF

Stephen A. White writes:

"Regarding the origin and parents of René Landry, le Jeunne there is probably
no other Acadian family about whose background there has been so much
speculation and wishful thinking. The result is that what we actually know
about the Landry families who immigrated from France to Acadia, has come to
be regrettably enshrouded in a dense fog of error and confusion."


This error and confusion was caused by the early censuses of Acadia, which
enumerated Marie Salé as the "widow of Jean Claude" in the cenuses of 1671
and 1678, and then in the 1686 census, no mention was made of her deceased
husband Jehan Claude.

Marie Salé was enumerated as 86 years old and living between René Landry, le
Jeunne and René Landry's oldest son Antoine Landry.

This caused noted genealogist, Archange Godbout, to leap to the conclusion,
that since Marie Salé was living in close proximity to René Landry, le Jeune,
then she was the mother of René Landry, le Jeune. And still a greater leap
was made to conclude that if Marie Salé was the widow of Jean Claude, then
Jean Claude was the father of René Landry, le jeune and Jean Claude, in fact
was actually Jean-Claude Landry, father of René Landry, le jeunne.

Stephen A. White, historian and genealogist with the Centre d'etudes
Acadiennes at the University of Moncton in Moncton, New Brunswick, and his
fellow historian, genealogist and author, Father Clarence d'Entremont from
Middle West Pubnico, Yarmouth Co., Nova Scotia have steadfastedly held that
the theory that René Landry's parents were Jean-Claude Landry and Marie Salé,
was false. As Father Clarence d'Entremont states in a letter of November
23rd: "NOWHERE in any census or other documents is to be found an Acadian by
the name of Jean-Claude Landry. So, who was the father and mother of René
Landry? I do not know, nor does anybody know.... Thus the descendants of René
Landry, in my humble opinion, cannot go further up in their Landry genealogy,
as we do not know who the parents of René Landry le Jeunne were, nor where in
France he was born".

"Jean-Claude Landry is effectively fictitious. There is no record showing
that such a person ever existed. The husband of Marle Sallé is simply called
Jean (or Jehan) Claude in the censuses of 1671 and 1678. According to
archives, Marie Salé was married to Jean Claude; if she is to be called the
mother of René Landry, necessarily we have to give her husband a name of Jean
Claude LANDRY. But, I repeat, the name Jean Claude Landry is not to be found
anywhere in the history of Acadia at the time; plus that the husband of Marie
Salé was Jean Claude, PERIOD.

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